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CCleaner for Windows CCleaner Windows Suggestions
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Trying to find new ones that you might want to keep that mixed in with the delete cookie panel is redicoulis.

We need 3 panels in the cookies window.

One panel for...

Keep

Delete

New

On the 'New Cookies' panel; You should be able to leave cookies in there becuase your not for sure if you want to keep them or not, which in that panel, it would not delete them if left in that panel.

I had a anti-virus program that had cookie control and thats how they set it up and it was great.

Nice little program btw.

Thanks

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Nice suggestion. But wouldn't that cause CCleaner to get very big? It's an awful lot of data to keep track of...

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How about just switching the panels so all cookies show up as keep and then you just select the ones to delete. There are some useful cookies that can accidently get deleted with all cookies showing up as delete by default.

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Objection! :P I dislike cookies. Strongly. Less than 1 percent of all cookies are worth keeping. In my humble opinion.

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Nice suggestion. But wouldn't that cause CCleaner to get very big? It's an awful lot of data to keep track of...

How would it be any bigger??

No the database would be no bigger. The cookie entry would still only be in one of the 3 panels, instead of one in 2 panels as it is now.

There would still only be one entry of each cookie and no duplicates.

Panels:

1. New Cookies

2. Delete Cookies

3. Keep Cookies

When moving a new cookie to a delete or keep, it will of couse remove it from the 'New' cookie panel.

Plus, a button just for the cookies screen, so if thats all you wanted to cleanup right now and not everything else, would be great. Still include in the whole full cleaning though.

Scenario: If you just went browsing and you went to 10 new sites and of course all 10 sites will leave a cookie, but only 2 of those sites, you would like to keep the cookies for say auto-login persposes. Then load up CCleaner and put all your new ones where you want to keep or delete or leave them in the new (wish does not delete), press the button and there you go and then exit CCleaner. Oh, before you exit, send a donation first. ;)

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But CCleaner would have to store information about all these cookies. Especially delete would grow big. Mine would...

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But CCleaner would have to store information about all these cookies. Especially delete would grow big. Mine would...

CCleaner would not need to store any thing mate. It could be done with a simple textfile. Loading on startup.

I'm also with you on hating cookies.

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Slaytar's suggestions sound good to me ... just an extra panel for those "new" cookies you're undecided about. So the number of cookies wouldn't be much different to what they are now, for any particular user.

I also agree with the idea of a 'run now' button for cookies - no reason why you should have to do a complete clean just to get rid of cookies. Not an essential feature by any means ... just another 'nice to have'.

But I don't think default 'keep' is a good idea ... otherwise you have to keep revisiting ccleaner every time you visit new sites otherwise you just build up cookies ... surely it's far easier to add just those that you do want to keep. I 'keep' quite a few ... but I very rarely add new ones.

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Some people surf close to a thousand sites a day. I still have difficulties picturing it but maybe it's just me being a bit short of imagination. :D

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Some people surf close to a thousand sites a day. I still have difficulties picturing it but maybe it's just me being a bit short of imagination. :D

Ahhhhhhh - I think I see where you're coming from - I think it's me that has misunderstood. I thought the OP meant that the new 'New' panel (if you see what I mean ;)) would be populated manually ... i.e. a sort of temporary 'holding area' until you'd decided whether you really wanted them.

But I now think (and probably where you're coming from) the OP meant that all new ones go there automatically, until you've had chance to review them.

If that's the case, then I too am against such an automatically populated panel.

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But I now think (and probably where you're coming from) the OP meant that all new ones go there automatically, until you've had chance to review them.

If that's the case, then I too am against such an automatically populated panel.

Where do they automaticlly go now?? The delete panel, so the automatic is there anyways.

Remember, if a cookie has been put in the delete panel, then it should not be removed when the actually cookie is deleted, becuse if you visit that site again, then the same cookie will be added back into your cookie directory, but it is still in the delete panel, so while processing, it would delete it again and you dont have to worry about that cookie ever again when proccessed and you wont even have to ever see it again, becuase its in the delete panel, while adding to the 'New' panel, would only show your new cookies since your last processing and then decide what you want to do with it. Otherwise, you have to go look through all the same cookies you have accumilated to just find the ones you want to keep. I would think that most people like the autologin for forums and such. Ad tracker cookies are the biggest ones you want to delete every time.

If you delete all cookies every time, then this wouldnt apply to you, but some sites require a cookie to be there, so they know its you and you dont have to verify thats its you again and have to go through proof process again. For instance, my bank requires a cookie to be there with my info like my ip#, etc... saved and not deleted or i have to go through verification again, most people would not want to just delete all there cookies for sites like that and have to go through all that again.

If you dont want any cookies then choose to delete it automaticly in Internet Explorer and not worry about them and im sure the other browsers have the same option, so like i said, this would not apply to you.

If you dont want any cookies then choose to delete it automaticly in Internet Explorer and not worry about them and im sure the other browsers have the same option, so like i said, this would not apply to you.

You can benefit from some cookies to make your internet experience easier and faster. There not all worthless or evil, but thats an indiviuals choice.

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Where do they automaticlly go now?? The delete panel, so the automatic is there anyways.

But the 'Delete' list is not maintained by ccleaner ... it's just everything in your browser that's not in your 'Keep' list.

My point is that currently the only cookies ccleaner has to hold a list of are those in the 'Keep' panel. If I'm understanding you correctly, your mechanism would require everything that's stored by your browser to go into the 'New' panel by default. So if you do a lot of browsing and don't review your cookies for a month, ccleaner would potentially have to maintain a huge list of 'New' cookies until you get round to deciding whether to 'Keep' or 'Delete'. That's the bit I'm not so keen on ... but as you say not everyone will share that view.

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CCleaner does not "store" cookies it just reads and displays the list, so the OP suggestion could be done,

I don't think CCleaner needs it but thats up to the devs.

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Objection! :P I dislike cookies. Strongly. Less than 1 percent of all cookies are worth keeping. In my humble opinion.

Second that. I zap'em all, every day. OK, paranoid maybe. But at my level of internet use, it is not inconvenient. In the matter of banking, most institutions have one or two alternate procedures which allow you to get an access code if the cookie is gone. Little bit unhandy, little bit safer, maybe?

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CCleaner does not "store" cookies it just reads and displays the list, so the OP suggestion could be done,

I don't think CCleaner needs it but thats up to the devs.

I wasn't suggesting that ccleaner stored cookies; but it must store the list of cookies to be retained (if it doesn't please tell me how it works!!). In order to implement the OP's suggestion it would potentially have to store a lot more cookie names (a list of 'new' cookies).

I've never suggested it can't be done ... just that maybe it shouldn't :)

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This will be my last post on this suggested *improved feature*.

A couple of you seem to be on the thing about the size of the storage of the database for the names of the cookies. Woow! 2/3 of window users dont know how or if they even could turn off Windows File Indexer which stores every filename and directory on every partition in a database. You know how small of storage and fast it is to store say 1000 cookie filenames. The average person im sure has over a 200 gig hd, which is why the amazements of why it would be more of burden with harddrive space.

Disagree and agree is one thing, but when your scringe about the space in a database to store the cookie filenames is something else. I would remove all microsoft stuff except the barebones to make some space, but anyways...

Atleast it got mentioned that it would be ran by the devp's.

If its implemented fine, if its not, fine too. I just think after people see how well it works, it would make there life faster and easier with full cookie control.

My proposal to show the developers is this.

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1. 'Keep' panel - Selected cookie names to keep. (stores cookie names)

2. 'Delete' panel - Selected cookie names to delete. (stores cookie names)

3. 'New' panel - All cookies go here until manually processed. (stores nothing - read from cookie directory each time)

4. A cookie process button to process the cookie system only.

~ All new cookies go into the 'new' panel (read from cookie directory).

~ Choose weather you want to keep or delete for future processing.

~ If your unsure if you want to keep or del a cookie, then just leave it in the 'new' panel it will be reread next time of program loading.

Press the process button:

~ All cookies in the 'Keep' are not deleted.

~ All cookies in the 'Delete' are deleted.

~ All cookies in the 'New' are not processed. (not deleted or added to the database.)

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Here is why this system works so good and convient:

If you just visited 20 sites, which in turn you have 20 cookies and you want to keep 2 out of the 20 and you know you dont want any of the other 18 ever again (ad, stats, unknown sites, etc...cookies). Put your 2 in the keep and the 18 in the delete and hit the process button. Of course its going delete the ones you put in the del plus add them to the delete in the database along with adding the 2 to the keep (as it already does) . Now comes the great part of this design. Say next time you visit 20 more sites and theres 1 cookie (an auto login forum) you want to keep, but only 5 are new sites from the previous 20. Load up program and it rereads the cookie directory and removes the cookies that you have previously decided what you wanted to do with them from the 'new' panel automatcally, so now your new panel only shows 5 cookies and then you choose the 1 that you want to keep and put others to del. No more looking at all the old 18 cookies you wanted deleted the first time, so now your only picking 1 out of 5. Overtime this system will very much be appreciated for full cookie control.

CCleaner already does cookie control, so why not make it do full cookie control.

Note: I programmed this cookie system (its not a hard system to figure out) in java long time ago and it worked great for the few sites with cookies you want to keep. Trends Micro Antivirus has the exact same system implemented. They go one step further though. They actually have a database of ad trackers, stats, etc... and when you load up there cookie control, they have known unwanted cookies highlighted in red, so you automataclly know to put those in the delete. I switched to kis, so i lost the cookie system.

For the users that dont want to keep any of your cookies:

The system of cookie control you want is already built into Interent Explorer, which you load every day and does it on each exit and for the person that said that what if i came back in a month and checked my cookies, then there would be 100's, well you must not be too worried about those cookies being on your system or you would set internet explorer to delete them on exit and not wait a month or a week or so to load up CCleaner to delete them.

CCleaner is already a nice program and its purpose it to maintain your system as easy and convient as possible and implimenting a full cookie control system would be good.

Note: After i stopped using Trensmicro, i was told to come here and get CCleaner and it would do the same, but it doesnt and im not installing java or c++ developers programs, just to program this, which it could be in the CCleaner which i now use for the other things.

CCleaner is a really nice little system cleaner program.

When i was given the name CCleaner and was told it did what i wanted, i thought it stood for Cookie Cleaner. ahaha. Its just the first thing that came to mind after seeing the name. Im not real for sure what the 'C' means nor have i thought about it since, but not important.

Thanks for atleast going to take this to the coder department.

ps. Im not saying any of you repliers in this suggestion topic that want all cookies deleted are paranoid porn people that want all the porn cookies deleted and not stored in a database, so someone could load up and see what you want deleted, but if you are and they implement this, then just suggest a password protection to view the cookie part of CCleaner. The rest of us wont even know why your suggesting it. ;)

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Hi Slaytar. Belated welcome. :D