Hi. I'm new here at the Piriform forums, so before I get started I would just like to say I have been using Ccleaner for years. I love it, it's a great little tool and it's not heavy on resources. I even use it on some old PCs! I love it's layout and I hope it doesn't change too much over the next few years.
To my idea!
Recently, I've purchased FRAPS and I now do a lot of AVI file joining with VirtualDub and various video conversions using HandBrake. I require overwriting (freeing) my precious space after the original source video files are gone. FRAPS source files are HUGE. A few minutes at half-sized capture at 50fps generates 4GB chunks per every 4 to 4 1/2 minute videos. I always like to overwrite these files, but I dislike doing it before I start converting other videos or decide upon playing a PC game. Waiting to overwrite with a single pass, or 3 pass secure file deletion over a 20GB pile, including other random files, such as browsing, system files, other various stored information, takes a fairly long while to overwrite. 20-30 minutes perhaps.
This is why I felt compelled to register. I would never like to see auto-clean by the way, I think it'd be a bit of mistake having that, but I think it's best if there was an option which you could use (easy to access, outside of options) that you could set to clean your system and then once the overwriting was done, would safely shut down Windows. This idea would be so useful to me. My current defragger/file optimiser does it. It's always nice to delete the files at the end of the day, but instead of waiting or allowing the system to go into stand-by, just going to bed and let it take care of it for you.
That reminds me, if cleaning takes too long on my system, my PC does go into stand-by. My defragger also does this. They do not appear to prevent it.
I don't use Defraggler unfortunately, since it causes more fragmentation than it clears, an it doesn't have file placement optimisation. But I do use Speccy
So far as the PC going into standby, I believe there is a freeware called Caffeine that can prevent standby.
That may help till the developers get time to write code to prevent standby on long clean/drive wipe operations.
I am not totally certain on that. Desktop? Laptop? I would think that laptop systems would be more affected by standby than desktops... Or perhaps it is the way Windows 7 handles standby as opposed to XP?
A few questions here, if I might ask...
- Version of Windows (include the Service Pack number too, please!)
- Processor speed & amount of ram?
- Version of CCleaner & Defraggler used?
Thank you!
P.S. I am a little confused by what you said earlier about Defraggler causing MORE fragmentation. I have XP SP2 & it seems to do good. I sometimes use SP3, but have found it to be incompatible with a lot of programs I test, so maybe I will later on. Also, seems that SP3 "crashes" faster than SP2 for some reason... Meaning that after I test a lot of programs on either system, seems SP2 is the old standby stable system. Can crash, but takes longer! But they say SP3 is better, so, guess you need to go with that.
Anyway, would really help if you can get the above system info for us!
I can't seem to figure out how to use Multiquote properly, but not to worry.
Super Fast, I use the most recent version of CCleaner, but I no longer use Defraggler. Sadly with Defraggler large sized fragments, including very large fragments (20+GB), are not reduced or cleared entirely, as well as huge chunks of extra file space being taken up. I got into using Smart Defrag because I tested various Defraggers in 2009, when I got this system. Windows defragmenter, was poor, as was to be expected but because I was using Xfire and recording many AVI video files throughout the day, fragments were huge on my HDD. It slipped my mind about fragmentation until I got my usual Defraggler (used to use it all the time by the way) and after about 12 hours cleaning of a 80gig fragment (yes you heard lol) about 25.5g refused to clear. After re-running Defraggler, the same chunk of data refused to clear. I used Smart Defrag since then and it manages to get rid of pretty much everything, as well as having file placement on the disc. I also find it to be very fast. I normally defrag multiple times within 1-2 week periods but with it being a new system, much more poewrful than anything I'd ever had, I was too busy enjoying the possibilities it offered. In an ideal world, I'd have Piriform for all my maintenance needs.
About CCleaner. I had no idea such a feature existed. I suppose because new parameters must be set, I'd of never known it was a feature. Wouldn't mind it being in options but at least I know it is there. Thanks
I have Windows 7 64 bit Home Premium OEM with SP1
AMD Phenom II X4 955BE 3.2Ghz AM3 Quad Core CPU
4GB of Corsair Dominator 1600Mhz DDR3 at 1333Mhz as of yesterday because PCSpecialist are crooks and sold me 1600Mhz DDR3 Memory which causes instability because a Phenom II X4 doesn't like 1600Mhz memory, thus the system freezes when resuming from Stand-by when using AMD Cool n' Quiet. (Yes I have AMDs word on it. I will be nagging PCSpecialist and contacting Trading Standards)
Got some info here before I went to bed last night...
22,950MB took 2260.196 (38 Minutes) to clean using DOD 3 Pass Secure File Deletion. (More AVIs I had to convert and put on Youtube )
22,950MB took 2260.196 (38 Minutes) to clean using DOD 3 Pass Secure File Deletion. (More AVIs I had to convert and put on Youtube )
You're just gonna wear out your hard disk faster doing all the secure deletion. If it's just your computer and nobody else uses it it's all a big waste of time.
When your video files are deleted you already have all the free space you are ever going to have.
Single pass or three pass overwriting will not give you any more space.
Again. I can't figure out how to use Multiquote. :S To the guy who said it'll wear my HDD out quicker. I know it will. But I dislike simply removing it from the file table only for my HDD to read that a BIG ass chunk has gone missing if I don't do secure file deletion. Yep you heard that correctly. A few times I've just emptied the recycle bin Via Windows 7 64 which I prefer to do with such large video files. Once done, I checked my HDD and it read a massive chunk was still missing. This is why I kept doing it. I understand and I already new that once you delete something via Windows it is still there but it's removed from the file table, as if gone, so data can be written over it. I just dislike it reading my HDD as if a chunk is still missing.
I know a single pass or three passes or even gutmann wouldn't give me more space (or security for that matter) but again, when I looked at my HDD the other day, I should of had 309GB, only to see I had like 280GB. Wasn't pleased. Checked recycle bin... was empty. Ran a pass over the data, rechecked. 309GB.
Perhaps I was over-tired? Likely, I probably mis-read something.
Again. I can't figure out how to use Multiquote. :S
To use the MultiQuote function, click the MultiQuote button on each post you would like to quote, then press Add Reply at bottom of page.
After clicking Add Reply you will have all the quotes in a single panel. Simply add your reply text under each one, like this,
To use the MultiQuote function, click the MultiQuote button on each post you would like to quote, then press Add Reply at bottom of page.
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You're just gonna wear out your hard disk faster doing all the secure deletion. If it's just your computer and nobody else uses it it's all a big waste of time.
It was a daily occurrence for Microsoft to insult me by scolding me for not shutting down properly,
and the only reason was that I used the proper shutdown procedure and Windows froze solid.
BUT they never used the phrase "BIG ASS CHUNK".
Exactly what diagnostic tool / error message were you looking at, and exactly what was it saying ?
Please explain
Do you mean you ran Recuva to resurrect the deleted files and THEN you securely deleted that specific data ?
Or do you mean you wiped free space which happened to include that data,
and that action gave back the 29 GB free space you thought had vanished ?
Windows loves to gobble up and then vomit disc space like there is no tomorrow,
just part of its house keeping.
I understand some wipe actions have drastic effects upon Restore Points,
which I believe could well give a 29 GB hit.
I've used multiquote before on other forums and I did as you guys said the other day... hit multiquote on each post, then add reply at the botton, yet it only took the first multi-quote I clicked on.
No... I had AVI files, I deleted them, checked the HDD space after emptying the recycle bin (without using CCleaner Secure File deletion, because I'm fully aware it knackers out your HDD quicker), an upon checking the HDD space, it remained the same size as if the files were there. After running CCleaner over an apprently EMPTY recycle bin (yes this happens from time to time) I saw it doing the file deletion over the deleted AVI files which were initially removed (deleted / MFT wise) from the recycle bin. I need to know my HDD space, it's no use if it starts saying I have X amount when I don't.