Thanks. Their offline uninstallers cleaner tools vs. the one that comes with the product fixed everything vs. me having to spend all day doing it by hand along with deleting everything in the registry.
I came across the "sc" command I had forgotten about and it might have worked, but by then I had already run the uninstaller tools based on your weblink.
Perhaps ccleaner can add the "sc" command as a right_click in the tools services area like one can do for the startup entries since one may have forgotten about it or don't know about. I.e. sc <the service name> delete