CC won't run "Cleaner" on my Win98SE machine, but

See here on right for old versions of ccleaner

http://www.filehippo.com/download_ccleaner/

Unfortunately I did not keep the v2.14 installer, but I have still got v2.07.

As Hazel has pointed out you can download any version you want too from CCleaner 1.16.082 to CCleaner 2.16.830 of FileHippo. Version 1's of CC were made with Visual Basic so you would need to install the Visual Basic Runtime files before it would work.

As I've said before I've used every version of CC for the past two and half years and each version work exactly as it says on the tin. ;)

As Hazel has pointed out you can download any version you want too from CCleaner 1.16.082 to CCleaner 2.16.830 of FileHippo. Version 1's of CC were made with Visual Basic so you would need to install the Visual Basic Runtime files before it would work.

As I've said before I've used every version of CC for the past two and half years and each version work exactly as it says on the tin. ;)

Thank you, Keith and Hazel.

By experimenting with the various version on FileHippo, I now know that the last version to work on my Win98SE box is 2.14.763. Something must have changed after this.

I now know that the last version to work on my Win98SE box is 2.14.763. Something must have changed after this.

Well I don't know whats changed. As I've said I've been using CC for the past two and a half years which out any problems with any version. I had slight snags with Recuva. ;)

I found the latest ccleaner version did not operate correctly on a win98se PC of mine:

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Microsoft Windows 98 4.10.2222 A

Clean install using Full OEM CD /T:C:\WININST0.400 /SrcDir=D:\WIN98 /IE /NF /IZ /IS /IQ /IT /II /NR /II /C /U:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

IE 5 6.0.2800.1106

AuthenticAMD AMD Athlon XP 2000+

512MB RAM

75% system resources free

Custom swap file on drive C (1827MB free)

Available space on drive C: 1827MB of 4141MB (FAT32)

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Hardware:

Motherboard ECS K7VTA3 V8.0

Video Asus 16MB AGP (w/ Riva TNT chipset)

Wavewatcher PCI (TV card)

Modem PCI agere 56k (aka Lucent Venus / Mars chipset)

Hard drive: 8GB PATA EIDE

CD/DVD burner: PATA EIDE

After a fresh install from a Win98se CD, I upgraded to MSIE 6 sp1 and then installed all MS updates.

I downloaded older versions of ccleaner off filehippo. Really old versions needed the vbrun60sp6.exe installed. I kept working my way up from old version, works OK, de-install, try the next newest version, etc. until I found that version v2.14.763 or older, work fine on Win98se. Any version newer than v2.14.768 does not work on Win98se: the symptoms are " 0 items are deleted " (similar to what others have stated).

Later, v2.14.768 continued to work fine after I installed Firefox 2.0.0.20 and Opera 9.63 browsers, with Java 1.5 and Flash 9 and made the newest browser (Opera 9.63) the default browser (has all the 'safer-browsing features' old browsers don't).

Here is what ccleaner v2.14.768 states is installed on this win98se PC:

7-Zip 4.65

Adobe Acrobat 5.0

Adobe Flash Player ActiveX

ASUS Display Drivers

CCleaner (remove only)

ClamWin Free Antivirus 0.94.1

Flash CD & DVD Burner

GetRight 5.2d

Internet Explorer Q916281

J2SE Runtime Environment 5.0 Update 17

LanLight version 1.1

Microsoft Internet Explorer 6 SP1 and Internet Tools

Microsoft VGX Q833989

Mozilla Firefox (2.0.0.20)

My Essentials Wireless USB Utility

Opera

Spybot - Search & Destroy

VIA Audio Driver Setup Program

Windows 98 KB891711 Update

Windows 98 KB896358 Update

Windows 98 KB908519 Update

Windows 98 KB918547 Update

Windows 98 Q823559 Update

Windows 98 Q888113 Update

Later, v2.14.768 continued to work fine when I changed the hard drive's partitioning to create a multi-boot PC:

hda1 fat32 partition for Win98se

hda2 ext3 partition for Linux Puppy3.01

hda3 swap and

hda4 ext3 partition Linux Ubuntu 6.06.1LTS.

I then set ccleaner to start up each time I restart: still OK.

I am posting this as an fyi to those that are running Win98se and have problems using the newer versions of ccleaner. I am happy to use version v2.14.768 on this win98se PC, and the newest version of ccleaner on my other PCs: WinXP, WinVista64, etc.

ccleaner is a very good app, nice job!

I found the latest ccleaner version did not operate correctly on a win98se PC of mine:

Any version newer than v2.14.768 does not work on Win98se: the symptoms are " 0 items are deleted " (similar to what others have stated).

Well as I've said before I've used every version of CC and they all work as they should do. If your saying that 0 items are deleted which items are you talking about. Everything in Windows\Temp folder, Temporary Internet files, Cookies etc? ;)

.... I updated to the latest v2.16, and the "Clean" part of the program stopped finding anything to remove. Unfortunately I did not keep the v2.14 installer, but I have still got v2.07. ... something has changed going from v2.14 to v2.16, making the new version incompatible with my Win98SE installations.

Ah yes; I recently downloaded what I thought was an "upgrade" to my CC V2.14.750 from filehippo.com; ie. V.2.17, then I thought to check the "technical" info on the download site - sure enough; it's made for XP on up - our old W-98SE is no longer supported. :(

Since my old junker "down cellar" back up box won't handle anything richer than 98 I'm stuck with it - unless I want to try LINUX, which I'm tempted to do although I get the impression that one has to be a bit of a geek / techie to handle that OS and that it's not quite as intuitive as Windows. :blink:

Are any of you familiar with it?

It seems that we have a version of CC for Linux, too - which is nice to know if I do go that route.

Oh; by the way; over on filehippo.com they list a whole bunch of earlier versions, so you could probably download your V2.14.750 (which I THINK might be the last W-98 compatible version) over there. Some other pretty cool freeware on that site as well, FYI - just remember to check the tech data to see if your OS supports it.

As Hazel has pointed out you can download any version you want too from CCleaner 1.16.082 to CCleaner 2.16.830 of FileHippo. ....

I just went back there and discovered that V.2.16.830 claims that it supports Windows "All Versions" - so I downloaded that and will give it a try!

What's the last version of "Defraggler" that will work on W98?

I just went back there and discovered that V.2.16.830 claims that it supports Windows "All Versions" - so I downloaded that and will give it a try!

What's the last version of "Defraggler" that will work on W98?

Yes all versions of CC and Recuva run on all versions of Windows. Defraggler has never run on a Win9x/ME system its a pity and users have asked for it. ;)

This is from my post...

"An apparent application that I "loaded" / "unloaded" changed the MSIMG32.DLL ver. 5.00.1693.1 to ver. 6.0.6000.16386 (vista_rtm.061101-2205). When I reinstalled ver 5.00.1693.1, CCleaner once again worked perfectly. There is a lot more detail as to the "how" I discovered this, but with the solution the "how" becomes irrelevant."

It worked for me on my Win98SE machine. (NOTE: I use CC ver 2.15.815)

Welcome to Piriform rr1165.

This is from my post...

"An apparent application that I "loaded" / "unloaded" changed the MSIMG32.DLL ver. 5.00.1693.1 to ver. 6.0.6000.16386 (vista_rtm.061101-2205). When I reinstalled ver 5.00.1693.1, CCleaner once again worked perfectly. There is a lot more detail as to the "how" I discovered this, but with the solution the "how" becomes irrelevant."

It worked for me on my Win98SE machine. (NOTE: I use CC ver 2.15.815)

Well this topic goes back a long way, what is you point exactly? Haven't you tried the newest version? ;)

Welcome to Piriform rr1165.

Well this topic goes back a long way, what is you point exactly? Haven't you tried the newest version? ;)

The point is simple: CC stopped working after years of successful use (see my post) and when I changed this "one" DLL it returned to working successfully. Since I did not want to become one of the legions of the "blind leading the blind" I indicated it worked for me.

New version? Why? 2.15 works. (OK! OK! I have way too much time on my hands - I downloaded 2.17 to my Win98SE machine and it works fine) On my XP Pro machine...the newest version is installed.

The point is simple: CC stopped working after years of successful use (see my post) and when I changed this "one" DLL it returned to working successfully. Since I did not want to become one of the legions of the "blind leading the blind" I indicated it worked for me.

Well the dll the you mension MSIMG32.DLL is a standard dll installed when Win98SE is installed. It has nothing to do with CC.

New version? Why? 2.15 works. (OK! OK! I have way too much time on my hands - I downloaded 2.17 to my Win98SE machine and it works fine) On my XP Pro machine...the newest version is installed.

So why did you say you were using 2.15? ;)

Well the dll the you mension MSIMG32.DLL is a standard dll installed when Win98SE is installed. It has nothing to do with CC.

I sure hope you're not a CC Tech Support person - The details of how I found this issue came directly from an error message created by CC!!!! And, as I stated previously - it worked for ME!

So why did you say you were using 2.15? ;)

I was using it! BUT, I am almost always ready to try something - like loading 2.17 to see if it would work, and it did on my Win98SE OS machine.

GREAT NEWS!

First, allow me to thank all of those who offered help for me, especially PDKEM, whose suggestion that version 2.14.763 ran fine on his Win98SE machine. PDKEM, your remark was spot on the money!

I now have CCLEANER working perfectly on my PIII550/Win98SE machine! :D

I was also finally able to expand memory to the max for my motherboard, 512meg, and WHAT a difference in performance! From stumbling along with frequent crashes, the machine now gallops at quite a satisfactory speed and is very stable. I was able to return the 2x 1gig pieces (that didn't work) and got 2x 256meg sticks from the same vendor very quickly, and they just popped in, working right away.

Since it appears that some of you have had trouble locating suitable PC100/PC133 memory, please allow me to suggest that you try vendor pcesupply on ebay. His prices were excellent (surprisingly so), and the service was impeccable, right down to mailing them as First Class Mail, thus avoiding high shipping costs.

I would add that I have no relationship with him other than as a very satisfied client. When I told him that the original sticks that I purchased did not work, he merely asked the make and model of my motherboard then sent me the correct memory (upon my return of the first ones, of course).

Not sure if I am missing anything by using the old version of CCleaner, but it immediately ran and found the usual piles junk to clean out. I saved the cookies I wanted, and everything was perfect, just as it is on my Vista and XP machines with the latest version.

Again, thanks to you all very much for your help and patience!

Best regards to all,

Aage Johansen

Aurora, Ontario

Thank you, Keith and Hazel.

By experimenting with the various version on FileHippo, I now know that the last version to work on my Win98SE box is 2.14.763. Something must have changed after this.

I honestly don't know why only v2.14.763 will only work correctly on both of your Win98SE machines, the lastest does what it says on the tin.

First, allow me to thank all of those who offered help for me, especially PDKEM, whose suggestion that version 2.14.763 ran fine on his Win98SE machine. PDKEM, your remark was spot on the money!

I now have CCLEANER working perfectly on my PIII550/Win98SE machine! :D

Since it appears that some of you have had trouble locating suitable PC100/PC133 memory, please allow me to suggest that you try vendor pcesupply on ebay.

Again, thanks to you all very much for your help and patience!

Long time no speak Aage, where have you been for 2 months? I got my 512Mb of eBay I could have told you that if you would have asked. I could have also told you that anything more than 650Mb won't work on Win98SE unless you do a bit of weaking. I actually did a search on there this week for PC100 and there are loads of vendors at reasonable prices. ;)

I honestly don't know why only v2.14.763 will only work correctly on both of your Win98SE machines, the lastest does what it says on the tin.

Neither do I, but I don't care a toss: it works now!

Long time no speak Aage, where have you been for 2 months? I got my 512Mb of eBay I could have told you that if you would have asked. I could have also told you that anything more than 650MB won't work on Win98SE unless you do a bit of weaking. I actually did a search on there this week for PC100 and there are loads of vendors at reasonable prices. ;)

Well, just got back from nearly a month in Florida (see my tan? :D) And it took a bit of back and forth to get the memory issue sorted with my vendor, due to my ordering the wrong item. Thankfully, he was patient and very clear in email, so I am quite pleased. 2x 512meg for $17.95 free delivery is incredible, isn't it?

But I'll check with you first next time, Keith. Thanks for looking out for me. ;)

Win98SE_CCLeaner_Processes.doc

This "might" help others who have had an issue running CC on Win98SE OS machines.

"An apparent application that I "loaded" / "unloaded" changed the MSIMG32.DLL ver. 5.00.1693.1 to ver. 6.0.6000.16386 (vista_rtm.061101-2205). When I reinstalled ver 5.00.1693.1, CCleaner once again worked perfectly." I was running 2.15 and have since upgraded to 2.17. For ME everything works fine.

This time I have included an attachment that shows all the processes running on my machine that relate to CC - it might help another user who is having the same or similar issue. (NOTE: www.sysinternals.com has been bought by Microsoft and you'll be redirected to there site - I don't know if the Process Explorer upgrade will run on a Win98SE OS machine. My version is 10.21)

CC is a great application.

Win98SE_CCLeaner_Processes.doc

Thanks for the info rr1165.

I don't know where you downloaded your v10.21 when Microsoft only offer Process Monitor v2.04. And a web search doesn't show anything. ;)

Thanks for the info rr1165.

I don't know where you downloaded your v10.21 when Microsoft only offer Process Monitor v2.04. And a web search doesn't show anything. ;)

Proccess explorer upgrade

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinte...s/bb896653.aspx