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Good link. Thanks
ran quick and easy, as you said, but 2.0 was taking too long so I quit out of it.
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Good link, thanks. Scared me a bit.
Got 2 virus warnings from Computer associates:
test-bid11950[1].html JS/IEPAGESPOOF
test-bid11467[1].html HTML/HelpControl!exploit
then got 0 vulnerabilities for IE7, then ran virus and got no virus warnings.
WMPlayer started twice.
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Just downloaded it. Thanks very much.
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There is a way to securely delete temporary internet files (TIF) which are locked by windows, using CCleaner. You will wish to move and overwrite 3 folders: Cookies, History, and Temporary Internet Files. You move them at startup to the C:\windows\temp folder. When they get to C:\windows\temp, CCleaner can securely delete them by overwriting them however many times you have told it to. The file names still exist, but the files are overwritten.
I have a DOS batch (bat) file that does it, but am not going to post it all here. Reason is that the file names for your installation of WXP may not be the same as mine, and the file paths must be described accurately in the bat file.
Sdelete is a great utility, but it will not easily delete these locked files on my computer, even after I move them. I don't know if Eraser will erase locked files or not, but CCleaner can do it automatically after they are moved to c:\windows\temp. This method is slower to set up, but when you get the bat file right and set CCleaner right, it is all done when you restart.
Well, here goes.
BE CAREFUL!
DOS does what you tell it to, not what you want it to. If you tell DOS to delete something, it sure will.
I will not accept any responsibility for damage or harm you do by performing this or any other operation. It works for me, but will not work for you unless you have the file paths set up right, have the .exe files in the right place, and have CCleaner and everything else set up right. The CCleaner team did not write, test, nor endorse this bat file.
If you don't know that you have everything right, don't run the bat file.
Sorry for the harsh language, but disasters happen when someone leaves out one little semicolon or letter from a bat file, or gets a file path wrong.
First, get on the internet and get 2 files: movefile.exe and pendmoves.exe. They are free at
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysintern.../PendMoves.mspx. Unzip them into your windows system folder, usually c:windows\system32. Usually NOT c:\windows\system, although that folder probably exists.
How they work.
The Movefile command will move the specified file or folder when you restart. The moved file will wind up in the folder from which you ran the movefile command. Tifbat3 will run movefile from c:\windows\temp, so that the TIF files will wind up there.
The pendmoves command shows you if any moves are scheduled to take place on restart.
--The line describing "Source:" (without the quotes) tells you which file or folder will be moved.
--The line describing "target:" (without the quotes) tells you where the file or folder will go.
Second, download tifbat3.txt to your computer.
Third, THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT: Edit tifbat3.txt to make sure all the file paths are correct for your computer.
This Bat file will delete all your cookies. If you don't want it to, leave out the line for cookies. Let CCleaner clean them using the options you prefer.
Fourth, set CCleaner options so that when you restart your computer:
It Does NOT
--clean Temporary Internet Files
--clean Cookies
--clean History
--Delete Index.dat files
It DOES clean
--System Temporary files
Fifth, rename tifbat3.txt to "tifbat3.bat" (without the quotes). This changes it to a bat file. Now it is ready to run (if the file paths are right). From now on, When you left click on it, it will execute. You might wish to make a shortcut to tifbat3.bat and drag it to your desktop screen. It will run from wherever it is, if you have DOS enabled.
To make it work, click on the tifbat3.bat file or the shortcut you made. A DOS window will open and you will get a prompt. You can then press any key to continue or you can exit. Unless you exit, the next time you restart windows, Movefile will move the 3 TIFs and CCleaner will overwrite them as many times as you have told it to. This will make your hard drive rattle and hum for a while. This takes longer if you have been on the internet a long time or if you have CCleaner set for multiple overwrites.
You should leave tifbat3 written so that you see the prompt every time. This is a safety feature, it allows someone to quit out of the operation if they start it by mistake.
BE CAREFUL! DOS DOES WHAT YOU TELL IT TO, NOT WHAT YOU WANT IT TO.
I hope this file helps.
Be safe.
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I think they are in a folder called temporary internet files, located in c:\ Documents and Settings\**whatever your owner folder is called**\local settings\temporary internet files.
Problem is, you maybe can't see them. Right now, windows explorer shows no files in my folder, called c:\ Documents and Settings\Compaq_owner\local settings\temporary internet files, but when I right click and select "properties", it says I have 918 files and 6 folders.
This folder is different from most, you can't see it even with the "view Hidden. . ." option checked. CCleaner will delete it if you have the option checked.
Edited 11 feb 07: Well, that is not where google is finding them. . .I deleted my temporary internet files, but the google search box still finds the old links to sites. . . sooo, I don't know. Sorry
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Thanks. Great information link.
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have used these for years with w98 and wxp, hope they work for you with vista. They're free unless you donate.
SpywareBlaster 3.5.1
from
http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/downloads.html
vista compatibility unknown, doesn't say it is
SpywareGuard 2.2
from
http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareguard.html
vista compatibility unknown, doesn't say it is
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Strange development.
Recuva now works. Scan completes. Files are recoverable. Haven't changed a thing, same ver. of recuva, same computer, same coffee cup. . .
Only possible difference that I know of is that I turned system restore off, then back on. Soon after, Recuva worked.
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Error Logs
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did your error logs not have a long long list of items attached? mine was super super long.
no list of items, just the error log in earlier post. . .but scan didn't finish
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http://cp.sonybmg.com/xcp/english/updates.html
provides a link to an uninstaller and info about how to use it.
http://www.sonymusicindia.com/xcp/faq.htm
"Top Questions" question number 12 tells how to tell if your system has the rootkit
I am also going to download Blacklight beta.
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have you tried restarting. . .installing. . .cleanup and a defrag?
Yes, thanks, tried reinstall, restart, turned everything off, scanned. Scan stops at 86.8%. System restore is set to use 12%. ???
Will indeed try a cleanup and defrag in the near future. Thanks
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ran Recuva22.exe from c:\program files\recuva.
Scan Goes to 86.8%, hangs
error log says
failed with error: 0
OtherInfo:CMainDlg::OBClBnSc- Failed to scan drive.
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Thanks again for great programs, recuva and CCleaner.
FYI: January 26, 2007, I tried the following to get Recuva to finish scanning:
uninstalled/reinstalled recuva 1.01.021.
Scan of c:\ goes to 86.8%, hangs
turned off Computer Assoc. antivirus, same result
turned off Computer Assoc firewall, same result
turned off Computer Assoc Pest Patrol, same result
turned off SpywareGuard, same result.
turned off SpywareBlaster, same result.
begged computer, same result.
error log says
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System Info: MS Windows XP SP2, AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4800+, 1.9GB RAM, ATI RADEON XPRESS 200 Series
failed with error: 0
OtherInfo:CMainDlg::OBClBnSc- Failed to scan drive.
Hope this helps.
Be safe
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Error Logs
in Recuva
Good idea, pjoshua5000, central location for errlogs. Here is my error log. I also made an entry in the "system hangs" topic.
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System Info: MS Windows XP SP2, AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4800+, 1.9GB RAM, ATI RADEON XPRESS 200 Series
failed with error: 0
OtherInfo:CMainDlg::OBClBnSc- Failed to scan drive.
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Thank you very much for this new program. It is going to be a great one, but right now, for me, it hangs.
Computer description:
Win XP up to date.
2 GB ram
AMD Athlon X2 4800+ processor.
System info says 149 GB hard drive (probably 160?) with 95 GB free. NTFS
Western Digital external HD 80 GB with 33 GB free. NTFS
Hang problem:
both versions complete the external HD scan, report found files, files were recoverable.
ver. 1.01.017 would quickly scan to 50.1% on the PC, then hang. I left it alone for 20 minutes. Windows task manager said it was using much cpu and ram, but it wouldn't move.
ver. 1.01.021 will quickly scan to 84.4% on the pc, then hang. Windows task manager says it is working hard, but it won't move.
SoftPerfect's standalone file recovery program did the same thing, but wouldn't close, had to use the task manager to kill the process.
Well, there ya go, all I know to tell about it. If there is any other information which would help, let me know. Thanks again for CCleaner and Recuva. I furnish this information for the purpose of helping you tune this fine utility, not as a complaint.
Be Safe
login123
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Winzip, a file compressor. Has other uses. Several versions available at:
http://www.oldversion.com/program.php?n=winzip
The last one that I know was free was ver 8.0, but you might try some of the newer ones.
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. . .some files securely deleted by CCleaner easily recoverable.
Hello, JDPower. I also am interested in the secure deletion issue.
It appears that the temporary internet files (TIFs) are not securely deleted at startup, just deleted. If the "easily recoverable files" were TIFs, maybe that is why they were recoverable. ???
Andavari pointed out the delete mechanism for TIFs here: http://forum.CCleaner.com/index.php?showtopic=8314
Don't want to be too inquisitive, but if those recoverable files were from an area that is supposed to be securely deleted, such as system\temporary files or system\windows log files, I would like to know that. Overwriting a file even once should mean that it would be difficult to get it back, and impossible for ordinary undelete utilities. So if you could remember the type of files which were easily recoverable it sure would help.
Thank you. Be safe. login123
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Glenn, thanks for the heads up about Eraser, I checked and I have the versions you recommended.
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Thanks, JDPower and Eldmannen, for pointing out that ccleaner is just for cleaning out space and getting rid of junk, which it does very well. A secure delete program would be necessary to get rid of files forever.
TEEJAY3800, the idea about the recycle bin should work for any files we put there, thanks for the suggestion. Ccleaner does apparently overwrite the files there, so they are pretty well gone when it is done.
By the way, what are those little boxes under our names? I have 2 now, had just one day before yesterday, does that mean I have gotten promoted? I am not listed as a newbie any more, so I guess so.
Be safe.
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Welcome to the forum. I can say that, I guess, having been on a week now. :-)
There are available, for free, some file recovery programs. I HAVE NOT used them, so cannot say how well they work. I am a little bit afraid of most free software, it has a way of gumming up the works. Also, am not sure just how they work. If you have to search the whole hard drive that could take a while.
Here are some sites for free undelete programs, not supposed to be trial versions, not supposed to have adware. Best advice is probably from XPSP2 and Glenn, prevent access to bad sites. But here they are. Maybe some of the forum members can say more about how they work.
1.
http://officerecovery.com/freeundelete/#properusage
2.
http://www.snapfiles.com/get/pcinspector.html
3.
http://www.snapfiles.com/get/restoration.html
Hope you enjoy the forum.
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I understand now ... and no, I can't see the index.dat in History or Temporary Internet Files directly. As you say, CCleaner (and other cleaners) delete them so, once I verified that, I forgot about them.
I think the reason that the History index.dat is "ORNERY" is because it is always locked in use by Windows.
There are utilities such as Index Dat Spy which allow you to read an index.dat (including History). Some cleaners such as Eusing Window Washer include a viewer.
Well, I booted up an old computer here, copied the history file to another folder, dbl clicked it and it opened right up, can see everything in it. On the old one, win xp is the same, software same, etc. Cannot do that on this computer, won't show'em. Don't understand that. Not too worried about it, just thought I would let you know.
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Welcome to the site
There are options for viewing hidden files and also files associated with windows in control panel>folder options.
Maybe it's because you haven't checked to show all files?
-aaron
Hello, TheFiresInTheSky. Didn't mean to ignore you, just that I have this job which occupies way too much of my time. Am new to forums, spend much of my time trying to figure out to whom I actually replied. :-)
Thank you for the information and the welcome.
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Since it's deleted on reboot in the PendingFileRename options area of the registry my best guess would be that it's just a normal in-secure file deletion.
Good answer, would not have looked in the registry. You're right.
Wiping free space from time to time should do it, don't you think?
Thank you.
What type of Firewall do you use?
in Windows Security
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Computer Associates, which is actually ZoneAlarm. Works well, is as interactive as you want it to be. But. . .if the cost keeps going up I will go to Comodo.
Someone mentioned Jetico, it looks like it might be OK??