nukecad
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22 hours ago, jmsatur said:
It was an app that went wrong.
OK, what app was it (name), and how did it 'go wrong'?
If you want us to work out how to help we have to know exactly what went wrong in the first place.
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The old 'rule of thumb' used to say that you should have about 15% free space for a sucessful defrag.
But it depends on the size of the drive and the size of the files.We had a similar thread last week where the user had mostly very large (4GB minimum) video files and only 19% free space so was having problems defragging.
(And that was on an 8TB drive).Moving some of those files to another disc freed up enough space to defrag the rest.
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Hard to see, but there are at least 2 Chrome related entires in your first screenshot, as well as those google entries in your second.
I think that we are going round in circles here, and it may be time to get a bit more drastic.
People who have had similar problems in the past, and also couldn't track it down, have cured it by uninstalling and reinstalling Chrome.
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49 minutes ago, jmsatur said:
My drive got wiped out due to an app that I installed,
What app was that?(Was it a regular app that went wrong? Or was it some kind of malware?)
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If you look at the 79 items listed under 'Procesos en segundo piano' you may be able to identify there something that is related to Chrome, Gmail, Google Drive, or YouTube.
Any of those could be the thing that is still running in the background.
As Trium points out you also seem to have more than one user account on that machine, so I would also make sure that the following is selected:
(There is a further possibility as to what could not be closing, you seem to have a lot of Chrome extensions listed in the CCleaner Startup screen, - but that's something to maybe look at later).
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I was only using CCleaner as an example to show that things running in the background are not shown as 'apps' in Task Manage but are listed as background processes. (Procesos en segundo piano).
You need to check your background processes to see if you can identify something Chrome related running there.
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They would not show as 'Apps' - If they are running in the background they will be under 'Background Processes' of which you have 79 running there.
For example in you screenshot CCleaner is not open so is not shown in Apps, but it is running in the background (Smart Cleaning?) so is showing there.
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Try using the Slim installer from here:
Tente usar o instalador Slim aqui:
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A quick search finds that it was already suggested a few times, for different reasons.
https://community.ccleaner.com/topic/32058-speeding-up-defraggler/?tab=comments#comment-190609
Andavari's reply there is interesting, he advocates moving large files to a second disc and back again, just as you did here.
https://community.ccleaner.com/topic/38636-defrag-using-2-physical-disk/?tab=comments#comment-234778
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Gildur is refering to the possibility of using space on a second drive when attempting to defrag a drive that is almost full so has very little free space itself.
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Those could well be the cuplrits - if they are set to run when Chrome itself is not open.
You would have to check in Windows Task Scheduler for the settings for each one to see if they only run when Chrome is running, or are running all the time.
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There is a Defraggler suggestions section:
https://community.ccleaner.com/forum/21-defraggler-suggestions/
I wouldn't hold your breath though, it's not had an update for a while now never mind any changes.
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I think that screenshot may indicate the problem.
There is not a lot of free space left on that drive for any defragmenter to work with.And defraggler is now showing it as 0% fragmented, I don't know how much free space there was before?
The rule of thumb is that you need at least 15% free space for a sucessful defragment, and at 19% you are getting close to that.
The larger the drive the less percentage free space is normally needed, but conversely the larger the files are the more total free space will be needed.
To make enough space to put defragmented files into, numerous other files have to be moved out of that space and temporarily put elsewhere.
It may well be that with your large video filesizes there is simply not enough free space to temporarily move enough files into.
I don't know for sure, I have no idea of how defraggler moves files about, or how many it moves at once.Which is why moving some to a different drive worked, in effect you were doing the job manually and the second drive increased the free space you had to work with.
(I don't know of a defragmentation tool that could use a second drive for temporary storage, but there may be one somewhere?)Maybe the title of this thread would be better as 'Defraggler won't work properly on almost full drives'?
PS. Your D drive has even less percentage free space to work with, but I assume that the files on that are also a lot smaller so it's swings and roundabouts.
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There is obviously something Chrome related still running for CCleaner to be able to find it.
Do you have a gmail app still open (maybe to alert you if you get mail), or anything else like that?
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So you have got them defragmented eventually.
That post you link is 11 years old and talking about Vista/XP, as far as I know Defreggler should now be able to handle exFAT (at least that is what the documentation says, I've never had reason to try it myself).
As long as you have eventually got things to your satisfaction than I suppose that's what counts.
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First check if you have compatibility mode with Windows 7 set, that will result in a blank screen in the installer such as you describe.
See the second part of this post:
https://community.ccleaner.com/topic/57911-cccleaner-will-not-install-on-windows-10/?tab=comments#comment-318261Windows 7 does not have the required up to date technology to run the latest 'Standard' installer.
If you are not sure then try download the 'Slim' installer from here: https://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/builds
The Slim installer does not contain the bit that Win7 can't process and so the slim installer still works on Win7, and Win7 compitability mode.
If that still doesn't help then please come back and tell us which antivirus you are using.
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10 hours ago, hazelnut said:
No more offers for Avast and CCleaner products are ticked by default at install
Only in CCleaner, they are still pre-ticked in the installers for Defraggler, Speccy, and Recuva. (Because those have not been updated yet).
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Obviously you have or it would not be preventing CCleaner from cleaning.
Something Chrome related is running until you tell CCleaner to stop it.
The fact that CCleaner can stop whatever it is from running, and then do the cleaning, proves that.
Have a read of this for some ideas of what related to Chrome may still be running in the background, and how to stop it:
https://www.omgchrome.com/stop-chrome-running-in-background-windows/ -
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When I start the cleaning process it tells me that Google Crome should be closed, but I don't have that program open. I give the button "Close and analyze" to start the analysis.
But then sometimes he tells me again that he has not been able to close them and if I want the closure to be forced, I also accept it.
Then the cleaning operation starts properly.
But I consider that these notices should not appear.
Why do they appear?
Because something related to Chrome is still running in the background after you have closed Chrome itself.
Background apps such as cloud print or sync, or a badly coded add-on are often causes of this.You need to track down what is still running that is related to Chrome.
(Sometimes uninstalling and reinstalling Chrome fixes whatever is not closing properly).
Porque algo relacionado con Chrome todavía se está ejecutando en segundo plano después de haber cerrado Chrome.
Las aplicaciones en segundo plano, como la impresión en la nube o la sincronización, o un complemento mal codificado son a menudo las causas de esto.Necesita rastrear lo que aún se está ejecutando que está relacionado con Chrome.
(A veces, la desinstalación y reinstalación de Chrome corrige lo que no se cierra correctamente).
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Forget that guff about endpoints, that documentation you found is for the business/networked version of CCleaner.
Simply find the .reg file (often in your documents folder), right click on it, and select 'Merge' to restore the entries.
https://www.ccleaner.com/ccleaner/faq/using/how-do-i-restore-registry-backups -
19 minutes ago, Gildur said:
I will try to move them on another drive.
If you move them one at once onto an empty drive (or one that is already thoroughly defragged) then that's basically a manual defragment.
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Defraggler should be able to handle FAT and exFAT files: https://www.ccleaner.com/docs/defraggler/introducing-defraggler/system-requirements
The filesize may be an issue, are these video files?
Maybe you could try moving those large files to the end of the drive? That will take some time as it has to be a full defrag of the drive.
https://www.ccleaner.com/docs/defraggler/defraggler-settings/defraggler-options-defrag-tabOr if you have another large drive then copy the files off the 8TB, delete them off the 8TB, and then copy them back one at once?
Again that's going to take time.TBH unless that particular drive is causing issues I'd probably just leave them as they are.
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22 minutes ago, Gildur said:
Thanks. Though isn't it possible to lock the files while defragmenting ? I already tried to analyse and the View Files, etc. But it always says this message....
Not if they are system files, Windows will have ownership.
I used to get that message quite a lot (every time almost) when defragging the file list and it was usually Windows Defender files, although sometimes other system files.
It doesn't seem to happen to me much now, improvements in Win 10 or in Defender?Close the message and look at the filelist, you will see that most files listed have been defragmented (now only one fragment), those with more than one fragment will be the ones that couldn't be and you will be able to see just what those are.
TBH that "Defrag aborted" has always seemed a bit too harsh a message to me, and it's incorrect when it says 'No files have been defragmented. ('Defrag incomplete' may be better).
It gives the impression that nothing has been defragged when in fact most stuff has been and it's only a few files that haven't.
I think the message may be a hold-over from the early days of defraggler which should have been changed but hasn't.
Just one of the many wordings/messages that needs an update. -
Just to add that my suspicion about the Updates may be wrong, and it may just be a coincidence of timing.
It is an outside chance that your HD was on it's way out anyway and running a disc intensive operation, such as defragging, has caused it to give up the ghost.
It doesn't happen often but drives do break or wear out, just like any other equipment.
https://www.howtogeek.com/341268/what-to-do-when-your-hard-drive-fails/If you are still getting the reboot problem with your Dell then I would use F5 to run the automatic diagnostics.
(F2 runs the setup utility, you would need to go through that yourself step by step, let the automatics do it if they can).
But it may be that the disc has simply stopped working and will need to be replaced.
CCleaner 5.65.7832 64 bit Health Check Page is blank
in CCleaner Bug Reporting
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Please don't post the same question twice, once is enough.
We've not seen that particular issue reported before, (either a black or white blank page).
I'll flag it to the staff/developers, but for now if Custom Clean is still working for you the I'd use that.
Most experienced users prefer Custom Clean anyway.
Go to Options>Settings and set CCleaner Home Screen to 'Custom Clean'.