before remembering to uninstall AVG (back in April) - KAV warned me about having other AVs in my PC + it was OK before with others bu NOT THIS TIME - ASAI got it downloaded it told me to reboot + it LOCKED up + could NOT boot up SO - I did a Safe Mode system restore back 1 day + that fixed it - then cleaned em ALL OFF + tryed KAV only again + it was too slow so now I use cheap + free stuff + Adaware too