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I'm assuming that comment was based on the fact that he knows how the program works and what it is actually doing... I am not sure of NXTwoThou's issue, as it sounds a bit bizarre and could have been the result of anything from malware / virus infection, to some form of incompatibility, or an issue with Windows XP. Yours however I have experienced and it was well before I even tried Defraggler. XP's Plug and Play for USB devices is well known to have issues, and if it doesn't get disconnected properly, or there's a hickup in Windows, it will not be recognized at the next connection. In addition, the data Windows gives you in this situation can be anything but accurate as well...

What? I'm failing to follow. Do you have your .ini file set as read only for some reason?

Hm... Has this crash been linked to the .Net Framework? I don't understand why this would cause a problem. Defraggler doesn't use the .Net libraries for anything, does it? Not that that's bad, but I just didn't think it was managed code...

I second deathadder's advice. When partitioning drives and installing multiples OS's, there's a lot that can go wrong (Now or down the line), so it makes sense to eliminate as much chance of that as possible. Another option though, would be to use something like Microsoft Virtual PC (Which you can find here: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/...pc/default.mspx ). This allows you to install an OS directly into a "virtual hard disk", eliminating the need to partition or dual boot. When you want to run the guest OS you start up Virtual PC and start that particular OS. There are other programs that do this, such as VMWare, Virtual Box, etc., but I haven't used those options. In my opinion Microsoft Virtual PC works very well and is very easy to use. Microsoft Virtual PC is free too, which is always nice... Hope that helps,

That's probably the case, though I can't confirm that. In any event, the interactivity of the drive map is well worth the required analysis to see drive state. I really like the new drive map, as it adds a lot of transparency to the sectors / blocks... I'm glad I could help thomas09, I figured that was what you were experiencing, as that is different from previous releases.

Oh, alright. That's a different issue then. I haven't experienced that particular crash. I'm sorry I couldn't be of any help...

Thanks for the suggestion, I'll give that a try once I get my computer back from Dell...

Yes, I do understand that. Under Vista though it just doesn't seem to ever speed up as it does under XP. XP is pretty fast to defrag on anything that isn't underpowered, but on Vista, even on powerful machines the defrag runs slowly. This does not really seem to be impacted (At least in my experience) on running Defraggler multiple times. My computer has an Intel Core 2 Duo 2.5 Ghz processor with 4 GB's of RAM and if I set Defraggler to run before I go to bed and wake up in the morning it is still not done. In fact, it is usually somewhere in the 30% area. Additionally, the (very well documented) Restore Point issue under Vista I think also adds to the lengthy scan times. With larger hard drives the amount of space allocated to Restore Points can be quite large, so the more Defraggler runs, the more Restore Point data it has to move around and manipulate (Though it can't defrag these files). I realize that the Restore Point issue is a Windows Vista thing, but I have noticed that Windows Vista "flags" Defraggler as being a potential issue, but does not flag CCleaner. This perplexes me a bit. To Windows they should just be two .exe's... What is handled differently in the install for Defraggler that CCleaner's installer doesn't do, or does differently? This is why I think that there must be a way around this issue with Windows Vista. Because the Vista Defragmentation Tool (Though horrid) doesn't create these Restore Points, so there must be some sort of approach / call that bypasses the excessive Restore Point creation. I'm not sure what can be done for speed... The Windows Vista Defragmentation Tool isn't fast either, but it is faster than Defraggler (At least in my experience). Of course, having run the Windows Vista Defragmentation Tool I'm not convinced that it actually does anything... LOL That sets Defraggler apart from the built in tools...

That would be a godsend for me. I have to install Piriform software all the time. I would suggest that the installer be just an installer though, and rather collect and install whatever the current version is. Otherwise an installer like this would be kind of worthless... Piriform does a really good job of releasing regular updates to their programs, so the installer would be constantly out of date... Thanks,

Hm... I thought CCleaner already cleaned up after installs... I would tend to agree that if this isn't done CCleaner should absolutely perform this cleanup so long as those files aren't needed for something. For example I know that Windows updates sometimes make backups so that you can go back to a current version (i.e. remove the update). I don't know enough about how Microsoft handles Windows updates to know for sure the necessity of these files. Hopefully someone from Piriform can shed some light... Thanks,

I was just wondering about this the other day and didn't see anything in the documentation. When I run CCleaner, does it clean files / registry for all users on the machine, or just the user I am logged in as? Just curious. Thanks,

Yeah, the hiberfile.sys is generally in use so it can't be defragged. Same with the pagefile.sys. For those looking to defrag these files, you can use the sysinternals pagedefrag which runs at startup (Once you've set it to do so). You really should only need to do this once, as the files don't generally get very fragmented (Not a whole lot of writing operations going on there). Here's SysInternal's page on Microsoft's site: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/default.aspx Hope that helps... As for the issues under Vista, perhaps a future version will resolve this. I will try 1.06 on my Vista install once I get the machine back from Dell...

Hm... I have Defraggler installed on 6 XP installs and have only experienced one crash at startup. In my instance this was due to my clicking the "Analyze" button before the drive map had been populated. This isn't by chance what you're experiencing is it? It doesn't sound like, but I figured I would double check as aside from that I haven't seen any other crashes like that... With regards to my crash, perhaps the Analyze button shouldn't be enabled until the drive map has completed populating...

I've noticed this as well. I can't wait to get my Vista machine back to try the new version on there. Perhaps some changes were made to improve performance on Vista that affected XP performance?

I believe there is a context menu shell installer for Defraggler. You can find it stickied at the top of the Defraggler forum I believe... It doesn't offer context menu support to move files to the end of the drive I do not believe, but I do not use the shell extension. Hope that helps...

You both are using Windows Vista, correct? If you search this forum you will see countless topics about this. Basically Windows Vista creates restore points when Defraggler is moving files around, which equates to this lost space... Over time old restore points will be overwritten by new ones, etc. If you want to reclaim this space now you can always delete the restore points... Hopefully a future version of Defraggler will play nicer with Vista, but for the time being this is the case... Sorry the news couldn't be better...

You need to either "Analyze" the drive or begin "Defragmenting" the drive for it to see and report the state of the drive and it's blocks / sectors... Hope that helps...

I would really like the option to mark certain files as being ignored by Defraggler unless I manually go in to defrag them. This would be very helpful for things like Virtual PC .vhd files, as if Defraggler is running on the host and you are running a guest OS in Virtual PC, you can have problems if the .vhd gets defraged. This is clearly my fault, but that option would add a level of protection that I would appreciate. I had to reinstall a guest once because of this... Whoops... Setting the percentage in the form title would be really helpful as well when you have Defraggler minimized. This would really be appreciated. I really do love this program though. It is phenomenal.

I have noticed some issues with running Defraggler under Vista as well. Most notably the following: 1) Loss of free space after defrag (Due to system restore information). This is a Windows issue, but as I have noticed that Defraggler is marked by Vista as being potentially unsafe and CCleaner is not, I wonder if there is something that Piriform can do about this... 2) Slow defragmenting. This is much faster under XP. 3) After defragmentation the drive map doesn't always look optimized. I'm not sure what causes this, but under XP things usually look better than under Vista. All in all it's really a great program. I love it. I have it running on all of our office equipment, and recommend it to everyone. I hope some of these Vista quirks can be resolved though, as the adoption of Vista and Windows 7 which is based on it is only going to increase...

Why's that if you don't mind my asking? I don't like things that don't show progress... I mean, how am I supposed to know how long it's going to defrag for? It just seems odd to me. It sounds like the Vista one is supposed to work much better than the XP one, and that's great, but progress notification is important to me...

Yeah, I saw that, but it doesn't mean I have to like it... LOL A slightly inaccurate progress notification is still worlds better than NONE... LOL I am soooooooooooooooooooo glad that Defraggler has something.

Thanks everyone for the friendly welcome and the answers to my questions. I hadn't even thought about restore points. It seems odd that Vista creates restore points when defragmenting a file, but it takes up a lot of space quick. I can lose 10% or more during a defrag, and my hard drive is 320 GB's... That's a lot of space. Also, certain versions of Vista also backup individual copies of files, so you can have almost like a versioning of a particular file. I have absolutely no idea what spurs this, or when this happens, but I have noticed this is happening. With large files, this can take up a great deal of space quickly as well. I have found that when I restart my computer and run Defraggler to analyze or whatever, I never do know what it's going to show. It's really a surprise every time how much free space I'll have... I just ran the Vista Defragmenter and was really shocked to see that it no longer notifies you of progress (As XP's did)? Dear god who thought that was a good idea? I quit the defrag. I like Defraggler a lot, and don't see how a defragmentation tool could not have some sort of progress indication. I guess just another quirk in Vista... Ultimately, the various versions of Vista all do things differently, so I don't know how that'll impact Defraggler development. I have Vista Ultimate here... I do agree on restore points. They are important. I kind of just let Windows handle removing those. There is a built in cap as to how much space restore points can take too. It's normally set at 10% of the hard drive space. I don't know if this can be changed. It does change as free space changes, allowing more room for the user's use. Thanks Again,

I have several scanners installed, and all of them save the scaned files in a directory on my C Drive. I would like to add these folders to ccleaner to be cleaned. The folders can't be removed, but all the contents can be removed. Is this possible? Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Does anyone know of a good JPeg Printer? Similar to a PDF Printer, in which you print to this virtual printer and end up with a PDF file, I need to be able to get a JPeg file. I know they exist, but I havn't been able to find one. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks,