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  1. I don't have to read any disclaimers, it's not like I'm going to take anyone to court over it. Anyway the whole entry seems like a bit of a mess, I'll try your suggestion and see if that works. (I'm surprised no one has mentioned this earlier, possibly not that many people use the winapp2.ini thing anyway). Thanks for your help. PS Yes it works with that extra alteration, thanks again. HERE IS THE CORRECT WINAPP2 ENTRY: (I left out the profile cleaning thing as per your warning above - have no idea what it would do anyway ) [*Yahoo Messenger (Logs/Cache)] LangSecRef=3022 Detectfile=%ProgramFiles%\Yahoo!\Messenger\YahooMessenger.exe Default=True FileKey1=%ProgramFiles%\Yahoo!\Messenger|logs FileKey2=%ProgramFiles%\Yahoo!\Messenger\Cache|*.*|RECURSE FileKey3=%ProgramFiles%\Yahoo!\Messenger\IMVCache|*.*|RECURSE
  2. If anyone with a knowledge of winapp2.ini could help me out with this I'd appreciate it. I'm sure many users of CCleaner and Yahoo Messenger would be advantaged as well. Thanks
  3. Hi Willy2, Thanks for your quick reply! I changed it as you said to this: [*Yahoo Messenger (Logs/Cache)] LangSecRef=3022 Detect=%ProgramFiles%\Yahoo!\Messenger\YahooMessenger.exe Default=True FileKey1=%ProgramFiles%\Yahoo!\Messenger|logs FileKey2=%ProgramFiles%\Yahoo!\Messenger\Cache|*.*|RECURSE FileKey3=%ProgramFiles%\Yahoo!\Messenger\IMVCache|*.*|RECURSE but it STILL doesn't show up in CCleaner. Why? Also, this is what the entry for Windlows Live Messenger looks like, and it DOES show up: [*Windows Live Messenger] LangSecRef=3022 DetectFile=%ProgramFiles%\Windows Live\Messenger\msnmsgr.exe Default=True FileKey1=%USERPROFILE%\Application Data\Microsoft\MSN Messenger|*.*|RECURSE Thanks again in advance!
  4. Hi all, Yahoo Messenger doesn't show up in the main interface of CCleaner, however it is in the winapp2.ini list of programs. Windows Live Messenger is in there too, although it DOES show up in the CCleaner interface, under 'Internet'. Anyway, I tried changing the winapp2.ini files to this, but it still doesn't work: [*Yahoo Messenger (Logs/Cache)] LangSecRef=3022 Detect=%ProgramFiles%\Yahoo!\Messenger|logs Default=True FileKey1=%ProgramFiles%\Yahoo!\Messenger|logs FileKey2=%ProgramFiles%\Yahoo!\Messenger\Profiles|*.*|RECURSE FileKey3=%ProgramFiles%\Yahoo!\Messenger\Cache|*.*|RECURSE FileKey4=%ProgramFiles%\Yahoo!\Messenger\IMVCache|*.*|RECURSE Can someone help me out here please? I think this should be fixed as Yahoo Messenger is widely used. Thanks in advance!
  5. Why isn't Webroot Window Washer included in winapp2, and can it be added please, it's not showing up in the applications list of my CCleaner. Thanks
  6. Rubbish. Maybe you're not familiar with XP. I see CCleaner as ticked for cleaning out 'Old Preftech data'. Mustn't be working??
  7. I agree with the above, but the fact is that when cleaning up my PC I go to Start>Run>prefetch>Select All>Delete. It cleans out hundreds of obsolete entries (which CCleaner should have caught), and on restart the necessary ones come back. Thanks.
  8. Does CCleaner clear this, and if not, can it be included please. Thanks.
  9. john_a

    Wipe free Space

    "Provide any evidence that any data has ever been recovered after being overwritten once.." "Gutmann says that it has been done on old technology.." So obviously it can be done, there's next to nothing written about it, but I would assume newer technology would make the job even easier. The original point I was making, and stand by, is that a single wipe of free space, as used by CCleaner, achieves next to no security (or purpose), if you so desire it. Unless my previously mentioned methods of secure deletion are employed, the whole exercise would seem a waste of time, and a mere gimmick for people who feel the need for this type of data security.
  10. john_a

    Wipe free Space

    There's a lot in there that needs addressing, but I haven't the time atm. I'll get back with a better reply later tomorrow. But for one, lets start with this: "It must be proven, and nobody can prove or show that overwritten data can be recovered. It can however be shown that it is not physically possible to read any magnetic track 'overlays.." I refer to THIS article, and quote: "Wright did find that multiple passes do make it harder to recover data and that data written to a pristine drive is much easier to recover." So I would presume, if the article is to bare any credence, that recovery is in fact possible. My apologies again, but I'm a bit pressed for time right now, I'll get back with a more thorough reply shortly.
  11. john_a

    Wipe free Space

    Err.., sure. "Well, if you agree with the statement that one overwrite makes the previously written data unrecoverable.." Where did I say that? "According to a memorandum issued by the United States Department of Defense (DoD), (2001, May), overwriting software must have the following functions and capabilities in order to ensure the integrity of the sanitization process: - A capability to overwrite using a minimum of three cycles (six passes) of data patterns on all sectors, blocks, and slack or unused disk space on the entire hard disk medium. " I guess we'll have to leave it to them to recheck their research, I'm sure there will be an amendment if they come across this thread.
  12. john_a

    Wipe free Space

    Hi I thought you may have found the wit and wisdom at the pub! (Kidding). Anyway, I came across THIS, which seems to be related to the issue you have raised. PS Anticipating a rebuttal.
  13. john_a

    Wipe free Space

    "and I don't think think that Piriform would claim that it is a forensic standard wiper. Still, the option appears to be quite popular." That was a good answer, however, any recovery professional will tell you that a single wipe of free space area is probably quite useless, but as you mention, it seems to be a popular option with CCleaner users, for whatever reason. * A capability to overwrite using a minimum of three cycles (six passes) of data patterns on all sectors, blocks, and slack or unused disk space on the entire hard disk medium. NOTE: As a mentionable tip, if anyone is interested in wiping out free space or old data prior to selling or throwing out their old PC, or for any reason, I'd suggest this: http://www.killdisk.com/
  14. john_a

    Wipe free Space

    Of course, a typical, predictable, yet useless interruption to the conversation. We were discussing the different wipe methods available, and in particular the usefulness/performance of the CCleaner Wipe Free Space function, but hey, thanks for the input..buddy.
  15. john_a

    Wipe free Space

    Sure, have a read of this: (LINK) Reasons for Concern Widely available disk overwriting software is one of the main reasons why data leaks continue to occur. Many corporate IT departments use these disk overwriting software tools to mitigate potential business risks and legal liabilities but these tools may have significant drawbacks which could compromise an organization's security. According to a memorandum issued by the United States Department of Defense (DoD), (2001, May), overwriting software must have the following functions and capabilities in order to ensure the integrity of the sanitization process: * The ability to purge all data or information, including the operating system (OS), from the physical or virtual drives, thereby making it impossible to recover any meaningful data by keyboard or laboratory attack. * A compatibility with, or capability to run independent of, the OS loaded on the drive. * A compatibility with, or capability to run independent of, the type of hard drive being sanitized (e.g., Advanced Technology Attachment (ATA)/Integrated Drive Electronics (IDE) or Small Computer System Interface (SCSI) type hard drives). * A capability to overwrite the entire hard disk drive independent of any Basic Input/Output System (BIOS) or firmware capacity limitation that the system may have. * A capability to overwrite using a minimum of three cycles (six passes) of data patterns on all sectors, blocks, and slack or unused disk space on the entire hard disk medium. * A method to verify that all data has been removed from the entire hard drive and to view the overwrite pattern
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