....well there you go AGAIN Andavari (jumping to conclusions) putting down someones theme or desktop. Have a look at the thread at Computer Haven forums under Programs/program problem. He is a newbie (Vern) trying to get this fixed. I know there are a few (I thot) techies on this forum who may be able to shed some lite on the problem. I was wrong I guess. But, thanx for the reply.......