joe935 Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 Installed the latest version of CCleaner 301 and I ran it with index.dat option unchecked. when i check off the index.dat files and run Ccleaner it reports 0 files found. Are the index.dat files being removed even though the option is unchecked? Because running a file find for index.dat files shows practically all index.dat files are 32kb in size, with exception of: C:\Doc. & Set.\Name\L.S.\TIF\Content.ie5 = 1.80MB C:\Doc & Set\Name\ietidcache =256kb Is CCleaner working properly? OS + Win XP pro sp3 Dont force it, Use a bigger Hammer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Nergal Posted November 29, 2010 Moderators Share Posted November 29, 2010 See: http://forum.piriform.com/index.php?showtopic=30734 ADVICE FOR USING CCleaner'S REGISTRY INTEGRITY SECTION DON'T JUST CLEAN EVERYTHING THAT'S CHECKED OFF. Do your Registry Cleaning in small bits (at the very least Check-mark by Check-mark) ALWAYS BACKUP THE ENTRY, YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT YOU'LL BREAK IF YOU DON'T. Support at https://support.ccleaner.com/s/?language=en_US Pro users file a PRIORITY SUPPORT via email support@ccleaner.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe935 Posted November 29, 2010 Author Share Posted November 29, 2010 See: http://forum.piriform.com/index.php?showtopic=30734 Sorry Nergal, but that topic does not answer my question. However using "Index.dat Analyzer". I found that "index.dat files" data is being deleted even though "Index.dat files" is not checked in CCleaner. I don't think that should be happening! Dont force it, Use a bigger Hammer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOdds Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 Indeed... It would seem that CCleaner wipes the Index.dat files when you have Cookies selected for cleaning and selectin 'Index.dat files' does nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe935 Posted December 1, 2010 Author Share Posted December 1, 2010 So can we expect a fix for the problem? Dont force it, Use a bigger Hammer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Nergal Posted December 2, 2010 Moderators Share Posted December 2, 2010 Indeed... It would seem that CCleaner wipes the Index.dat files when you have Cookies selected for cleaning and selectin 'Index.dat files' does nothing. is it wiping all index.dats? or just the cookies ones (I am guessing just the later) ADVICE FOR USING CCleaner'S REGISTRY INTEGRITY SECTION DON'T JUST CLEAN EVERYTHING THAT'S CHECKED OFF. Do your Registry Cleaning in small bits (at the very least Check-mark by Check-mark) ALWAYS BACKUP THE ENTRY, YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT YOU'LL BREAK IF YOU DON'T. Support at https://support.ccleaner.com/s/?language=en_US Pro users file a PRIORITY SUPPORT via email support@ccleaner.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe935 Posted December 2, 2010 Author Share Posted December 2, 2010 It's wiping all index.dat files. Haven't you tried it yourself Nergal? Dont force it, Use a bigger Hammer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Augeas Posted December 2, 2010 Moderators Share Posted December 2, 2010 I've just tried cleaning Index.dat files, then cleaning Cookies. There is no difference in the number, size or last accessed date of my index.dat files. I've no idea what's happening here. Nothing, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe935 Posted December 2, 2010 Author Share Posted December 2, 2010 If you run Index dat analyzer available from: http://www.systenance.com/indexdat.php You will see that files are being deleted, even though the option in CCleaner is not checked. Dont force it, Use a bigger Hammer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Augeas Posted December 2, 2010 Moderators Share Posted December 2, 2010 No they're not. CC has never cleaned all index.dat files, so I'm concentrating on C:\Documents and Settings\Me\Local Settings\TIF\Content.IE5\Index.dat, the most used index file. This is 224 kb and unchanged after cleaning cookies and index.dat files with CC. Whether it will be cleaned when I run CC en masse is another matter. I'll let you know shortly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Augeas Posted December 2, 2010 Moderators Share Posted December 2, 2010 OK. Ran CC in full with browsers closed. Before the run there were zero bytes to delete in both History and Index files. Afetr the run the index file as above remained at 224 kb but was emptied. I don't know what CC setting clears this out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe935 Posted December 2, 2010 Author Share Posted December 2, 2010 I dont know how you are looking at the files in this folder: C:\Documents and Settings\Me\Local Settings\TIF\Content.IE5\Index.dat, But before i ran CCleaner there were over a dozen files in that folder and after running ccleaner there were none. Dont force it, Use a bigger Hammer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Augeas Posted December 2, 2010 Moderators Share Posted December 2, 2010 I can't look at it in Explorer, nor does the index.dat file in there show when I search the c drive for index.dat files. I look at it by copying the temp int files folder and contents to a flash drive, then opening it. After running CC the TIF is empty except for the Content.IE5 folder and the index.dat file. Or, run Analyse on Temp Internet Files. Right click and select View detailed Results. Right click on any file such as C:\Documents and Settings\Me\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\9X9XNG3B and select Open Containing Folder, go up one level to take you to Content.IE5, and there you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe935 Posted December 2, 2010 Author Share Posted December 2, 2010 why dont you install the index.dat analyzer program? makes it much easier Dont force it, Use a bigger Hammer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Augeas Posted December 2, 2010 Moderators Share Posted December 2, 2010 I did once, didn't use it much after the first few days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe935 Posted December 2, 2010 Author Share Posted December 2, 2010 True, It's not a program I use much either, but it comes in handy at a time like this. Dont force it, Use a bigger Hammer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOdds Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 I got it wrong. It's 'History' that wipes the Index.dat files not 'Cookies'. I could have sworn that it was 'Cookies' though. I used IdatScan (Index.dat Scanner) to check the files before and after. The origin website of IdatScan is long gone so it may be hard to find working download links for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe935 Posted December 2, 2010 Author Share Posted December 2, 2010 So why not use Index.dat analyzer from here: http://www.systenance.com/indexdat.php It's excellent for viewing the files in the tif folders Dont force it, Use a bigger Hammer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhpt Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 After using 3.01 and rebooting this is what I get for index.dat. Cookies and Low\History.IE5 looks normal. But TIF\Content.IE5 at 1,015,808 doesn't seem right. I thought a "clean" index.dat defaults to about 32KB. Directory of D:\Profiles\IEData\Cookies 11/29/2010 08:42 PM 32,768 index.dat 1 File(s) 32,768 bytes Directory of D:\Profiles\IEData\History\History.IE5 11/29/2010 08:42 PM 65,536 index.dat 1 File(s) 65,536 bytes Directory of D:\Profiles\IEData\History\History.IE5\MSHist012010112920101130 11/29/2010 08:42 PM 32,768 index.dat 1 File(s) 32,768 bytes Directory of D:\Profiles\IEData\History\Low\History.IE5 11/26/2010 09:49 PM 16,384 index.dat 1 File(s) 16,384 bytes Directory of D:\Profiles\IEData\IECompatCache 11/27/2010 06:02 PM 360,448 index.dat 1 File(s) 360,448 bytes Directory of D:\Profiles\IEData\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5 11/29/2010 08:42 PM 1,015,808 index.dat 1 File(s) 1,015,808 bytes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
login123 Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 (edited) I got it wrong. It's 'History' that wipes the Index.dat files not 'Cookies'. I could have sworn that it was 'Cookies' though. I used IdatScan (Index.dat Scanner) to check the files before and after. The origin website of IdatScan is long gone so it may be hard to find working download links for it. Found it, used it: CNET link. Don't think it installs, just runs, does try to phone home when you click on "How to Delete..." button, but link gone. Not sure, tho, about the installing part, just didn't find any remnants in a cursory search. Edited December 3, 2010 by login123 The CCleaner SLIM version is always released a bit after any new version; when it is it will be HERE :-) Pssssst: ... It isn't really a cloud. Its a bunch of big, giant servers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiteshark Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 I can confirm that the index.dat files are not cleaned anymore (Windows XP Pro SP3 fully patched, IE 8.0) Installed and tested the previous 3.00.1310, it does work fine. So it's definitely a bug of this latest version. Can't realize why you guys suggest to use an other application to make a job that CCleaner always did fine, since ages... Guide in italiano per CCleaner - Recuva - Defraggler - Speccy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
login123 Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 ... Can't realize why you guys suggest to use an other application to make a job that CCleaner always did fine, since ages... Not me, brother. I just used those 2 apps to look at the files. Research. I bet the developers will fix this in a flash. The CCleaner SLIM version is always released a bit after any new version; when it is it will be HERE :-) Pssssst: ... It isn't really a cloud. Its a bunch of big, giant servers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe935 Posted December 3, 2010 Author Share Posted December 3, 2010 I olny used the analyzer to check what's happening with ccleaner. never used it to clean the index.dat files. I hope your right, Login123, that the developers will fix the bug. Dont force it, Use a bigger Hammer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOdds Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Right. Just checking the files not cleaning them. Don't think it installs, just runs, does try to phone home when you click on "How to Delete..." button, but link gone. Not sure, tho, about the installing part, just didn't find any remnants in a cursory search. Yeah it's portable executable. No install and it shouldn't leave anything behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Nergal Posted January 4, 2011 Moderators Share Posted January 4, 2011 Pleae See here for the proof that cleaning is being done http://forum.piriform.com/index.php?showtopic=30995&view=findpost&p=185341 ADVICE FOR USING CCleaner'S REGISTRY INTEGRITY SECTION DON'T JUST CLEAN EVERYTHING THAT'S CHECKED OFF. Do your Registry Cleaning in small bits (at the very least Check-mark by Check-mark) ALWAYS BACKUP THE ENTRY, YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT YOU'LL BREAK IF YOU DON'T. Support at https://support.ccleaner.com/s/?language=en_US Pro users file a PRIORITY SUPPORT via email support@ccleaner.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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