libanjon Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 I don't know if this one is a bug.... I noticed that CCleaner does not delete tmp files in the C:\root folder. I am using Windows XP and I just installed CCleaner Ver. 2.10.618. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoKenny Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 Welcome libanjon What are the tmp file names that are not deleted? "Education is what remains after one has forgotten everything he learned in school." - Albert Einstein IE7Pro user Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
libanjon Posted August 12, 2008 Author Share Posted August 12, 2008 Welcome libanjon What are the tmp file names that are not deleted? In windows XP, a lot of tmp files are randomly created by the OS while windows programs are running. (Example below:) The files will just keep on piling if you don't manually delete it. C:\>dir *.tmp Volume in drive C has no label. Volume Serial Number is C061-EE73 Directory of C:\ 02/08/2008 04:24 PM 0 11.tmp 02/08/2008 05:02 PM 0 1A.tmp 02/08/2008 05:05 PM 0 1C.tmp 02/08/2008 04:15 PM 0 D.tmp 02/08/2008 04:17 PM 0 F.tmp 5 File(s) 0 bytes 0 Dir(s) 20,934,868,992 bytes free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoKenny Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 What I see: C:\>dir *.tmp Volume in drive C is IBM_PRELOAD Volume Serial Number is BC33-66F9 Directory of C:\ File Not Found It could be an application that you are using that is using C:\ as a tmp storage Folder. What applications are you currently running? "Education is what remains after one has forgotten everything he learned in school." - Albert Einstein IE7Pro user Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
libanjon Posted August 13, 2008 Author Share Posted August 13, 2008 What I see: C:\>dir *.tmp Volume in drive C is IBM_PRELOAD Volume Serial Number is BC33-66F9 Directory of C:\ File Not Found It could be an application that you are using that is using C:\ as a tmp storage Folder. What applications are you currently running? I have the standard MS office applications and lotus notes. If i follow your logic, when then can I delete the tmp files using a simple DOS command to delete it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
libanjon Posted August 13, 2008 Author Share Posted August 13, 2008 I have the standard MS office applications and lotus notes. If i follow your logic, when then can I delete the tmp files using a simple DOS command to delete it? Sorry for the typo, should be..... WHY then can I delete the tmp files using a simple DOS command to delete it? If you already don't have tmp files in your root folder, of course CCleaner can't clean it because it's not there in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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libanjon Posted August 19, 2008 Author Share Posted August 19, 2008 If you mean in CC going to "Options> Include> Add File" then your right. Cant select what isnt there. You either have to wait until the file(s) are created again so you can select it (and change the file name to *.tmp) or you have to add a line to your 'CCleaner.ini' such as... Include1=PATH|C:\|*.tmp Maybe my english is so bad you still don't understand what i mean. Anyways, try to manually create a file named "test.tmp" in C:\ folder. Run CCleaner and check whether the file is deleted. The file is a "tmp" file, it should be deleted without any special configuration as u suggested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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davey Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 Maybe my english is so bad you still don't understand what i mean. Anyways, try to manually create a file named "test.tmp" in C:\ folder. Run CCleaner and check whether the file is deleted. The file is a "tmp" file, it should be deleted without any special configuration as u suggested. Hello libanjon, What is happening in my view is that you may have a misunderstanding of what CCleaner "cleans". Unlike many other "cleaners" CCleaner does it's best to prevent users from doing unsafe practices unless they actually put requests for cleaning using the Include feature as Disk4mat has suggested. Many "cleaner" programs make it too easy for users to perform these procedures. As a result they get a bad reputation as "dangerous" to use. CCleaner does not want to get such a reputation. The ares for cleaning can be found in the .INI files that are embedded in the program itself. These will show you exactly what is to be cleaned. You can get a copy of these .ini files at this link. http://forum.piriform.com/index.php?s=&...st&p=110667 This is a friendly forum. Please read and follow the rules. Links to the rules can be found at the top of most forums. http://forum.piriform.com/index.php?act=an...p;f=4&id=15 Best wishes, davey http://www.ccleanerbeginnersguide.com/ CCleaner Beginner's Guide.com Bookmark and save to Favorites Beginners advice Start here with this link and follow its advice. http://forum.piriform.com/index.php?s=&...st&p=105208 Also see this link about the Registry and newbies. http://forum.piriform.com/index.php?s=&...ost&p=96510 Come back and let us know how you did and what else we can help you with. There are lots of easy things to learn. One step at time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
libanjon Posted August 19, 2008 Author Share Posted August 19, 2008 Thanks kenny! I'm still having the same problem though.... I have set my windows environment user variables like this: TMP C:\WINDOWS\TEMP TEMP C:\WINDOWS\TEMP This is my CCleaner.ini: [Options] Language=1033 UpdateKey=08/13/2008 06:04:41 PM BackupDir=C:\Program Files\CCleaner MSG_CONFIRMCLEAN=False WINDOW_MAX=1 WINDOW_LEFT=202 WINDOW_TOP=144 WINDOW_WIDTH=620 WINDOW_HEIGHT=450 MSG_WARNMOZCACHE=False (App)Old Prefetch data=True (App)Menu Order Cache=False (App)Tray Notifications Cache=False (App)Window Size/Location Cache=True (App)User Assist History=True (App)IIS Log Files=True (App)Hotfix Uninstallers=True (App)Custom Folders=True Include1=PATH|C:\|*.tmp CustomFiles= CustomFolders= The tmp files in the root folder seems to be created with a random name that goes like this; 2B.tmp, 2D.TMP etc. I'm sure that these files are created by some application but I can't pinpoint the exact program. Anyway, If I manually create a tmp file in the root of my drive, it's not being deleted by CCleaner as well. I have tried using other utilities such as Emptemp and it has no problem deleting the files. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
libanjon Posted August 19, 2008 Author Share Posted August 19, 2008 So what your saying is that CC should 'search' your drive looking for and cleaning all files with the TMP extension? Because without 'special configuration' how else would CC know where to look and what to clean? Edit: I saw the new thread where you posted that 'nobody seems to care.... or nobody knows the solution'. You got both from me. After thinking about this a bit more I realized that.. CC detects your temp folder as specified in System Properties, Advanced, Enviroment Variables. If 3rd party software is ignoring the enviroment and dumping temp files in the root of your drive then you two options. Contact the vendor and let them know about the issue or... Make the accomodation in CC to scan the specific location for the specified file(s). Thats what winapp2.ini is for. Or the original suggestion I made. Either will give you the results your looking for. Sorry, I misquote your name. Anyways, Thanks Disk4mat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoKenny Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 Those files could be created by malware. Download RogueRemover and MBAM then update their definition files to the latest available then run them: http://www.malwarebytes.org/rogueremover.php http://www.malwarebytes.org/mbam.php If MBAM finds something then insure you let it remove what it finds then reboot to let the locked files be removed. Post back their results. "Education is what remains after one has forgotten everything he learned in school." - Albert Einstein IE7Pro user Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators hazelnut Posted August 19, 2008 Moderators Share Posted August 19, 2008 Post back their results. Please post any results or logs in the Spyware Hell part of the forum not CCleaner bug section http://forum.piriform.com/index.php?showforum=12 Support contact https://support.ccleaner.com/s/contact-form?language=en_US&form=general or support@ccleaner.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
libanjon Posted August 19, 2008 Author Share Posted August 19, 2008 Those files could be created by malware. Download RogueRemover and MBAM then update their definition files to the latest available then run them: http://www.malwarebytes.org/rogueremover.php http://www.malwarebytes.org/mbam.php If MBAM finds something then insure you let it remove what it finds then reboot to let the locked files be removed. Post back their results. I don't think it's caused by a malware. I have encountered this issue in all windows XP pc. The root folder will always have a zero byte tmp files after using the system for a while. i've seen these zero byte files in my home pc, my work pc, my laptop, few client pc's... all in running windows xp pro. I think it's a CCleaner BUG! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators hazelnut Posted August 19, 2008 Moderators Share Posted August 19, 2008 lebanjon, CCleaner cleans my c/temp file and always has. The only thing I seem to get in it is a EmlResize_0.log file. I first noticed this in 2006 http://forum.piriform.com/index.php?showtopic=4680 Support contact https://support.ccleaner.com/s/contact-form?language=en_US&form=general or support@ccleaner.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Andavari Posted August 19, 2008 Moderators Share Posted August 19, 2008 I don't know if a program will dump temp files into the root directory or not if the Windows temp path variables are messed up, but I suppose anything is possible. Sometimes if a temp folder is missing such as %userprofile%\local settings\temp that will make some programs non-functional if they use that folder and they won't load. If I were to see random tmp files appearing in my root directory I'd do a malware scan first. Then I'd start launching all of my applications one at a time to see if they're created by a legitimate program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoKenny Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 I don't think it's caused by a malware. I have encountered this issue in all windows XP pc. The root folder will always have a zero byte tmp files after using the system for a while. i've seen these zero byte files in my home pc, my work pc, my laptop, few client pc's... all in running windows xp pro. I think it's a CCleaner BUG! Try them. I think you will like them and it will definitely prove if the system has some known malware. Kuala Lumpur must be fantastic but I have not been there but I was working in Jakarta, Indonesia for 5 weeks once. "Education is what remains after one has forgotten everything he learned in school." - Albert Einstein IE7Pro user Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
libanjon Posted August 19, 2008 Author Share Posted August 19, 2008 Try them. I think you will like them and it will definitely prove if the system has some known malware. Kuala Lumpur must be fantastic but I have not been there but I was working in Jakarta, Indonesia for 5 weeks once. Whether the tmp file is created by malware, spyware, adware or any other program, the issue remains that CCleaner should delete those files. The title of my post is "CCleaner cannot delete tmp file in C:\ root folder" so I would love to hear/read a reply on how to configure CCleaner to delete the tmp files. I have configured my CCleaner as suggested by earlier posts and run CCleaner but the files are still not deleted. If i delete the files manually in the explorer view, there is no problem... no message from the OS that the files are being used by a program. The best way to prove my point is; try manually creating creating a tmp file in the c: root folder and check whether CCleaner can clean the file. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators hazelnut Posted August 19, 2008 Moderators Share Posted August 19, 2008 I take it that you have ''only over 48 hours'' rule unticked in CCleaner advanced options? Just checking Support contact https://support.ccleaner.com/s/contact-form?language=en_US&form=general or support@ccleaner.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Augeas Posted August 19, 2008 Moderators Share Posted August 19, 2008 I'm on XP Home, I don't have any .tmp files on my C drive, but a few similarly named zero-byte files in C:\Documents and Settings\myname\Local Settings\Temp (rather surprisingly I don't have Clear Temp Files ticked). As has been pointed out these files are most probable being created by some application, not the OS. If you enter 'tmp files c drive' (no quotes) in Google there are many others with the same problem which seems to be caused by some application. It may be possible that you can identify what is creating the tmp files on your pc from these postings. CC cleans known system and popular application temp files from known locations. If it tries to clean files where it doesn't know what created them (as in the case of .tmp files on the c drive) it would be asking for trouble. Your English is excellent, by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Augeas Posted August 19, 2008 Moderators Share Posted August 19, 2008 It may be possible that you can identify what is creating the tmp files on your pc from these postings. .... and stop it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
libanjon Posted August 19, 2008 Author Share Posted August 19, 2008 I take it that you have ''only over 48 hours'' rule unticked in CCleaner advanced options? Just checking Hazelnut, The first time I encountered the issue, I have tried all the advance settings of CCleaner.... the key-word is "ROOT FOLDER" not "WINDOWS\Temp" folder!. I think nobody really understand what I'm trying to say... Did u try my suggestion to manually create a tmp file? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
libanjon Posted August 19, 2008 Author Share Posted August 19, 2008 I'm on XP Home, I don't have any .tmp files on my C drive, but a few similarly named zero-byte files in C:\Documents and Settings\myname\Local Settings\Temp (rather surprisingly I don't have Clear Temp Files ticked). As has been pointed out these files are most probable being created by some application, not the OS. If you enter 'tmp files c drive' (no quotes) in Google there are many others with the same problem which seems to be caused by some application. It may be possible that you can identify what is creating the tmp files on your pc from these postings. CC cleans known system and popular application temp files from known locations. If it tries to clean files where it doesn't know what created them (as in the case of .tmp files on the c drive) it would be asking for trouble. Your English is excellent, by the way. Augeas, I understand that the tmp files may have been created by some applications. I'm just confused on what you said that "CC cleans known system and popular application temp files from known locations. If it tries to clean files where it doesn't know what created them (as in the case of .tmp files on the c drive) it would be asking for trouble." As suggested by Disk4mat, I have included this line; "Include1=PATH|C:\|*.tmp " in my CCleaner.ini. By including this line, I thought i am letting CC know the location and the files to delete. Is this line particularly asking for trouble that's why CC don't delete the tmp files? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disk4mat Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 As suggested by Disk4mat, I have included this line; "Include1=PATH|C:\|*.tmp " in my CCleaner.ini. By including this line, I thought i am letting CC know the location and the files to delete. Is this line particularly asking for trouble that's why CC don't delete the tmp files?First let me apologize for being overly critical earlier. You're right. By using the 'Include' your telling CC to remove all files with the tmp ext. on the root of the drive. I did some experimenting and I see the problem now. If you enter the full file name, CC will find and remove it. But when using the wild card, it simply dosent work. This is strange because I have a dozen files and folders in the include list. All of them use a wild card. So apparently it is a bug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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